Discussion in 'THE WATCH BOOKS' started by ArthurDent, Aug 20, 2005.
I can picture him as Vimes very well, despite the differences in the literal description...
some where i believe it is mentioned that he is 35-probably (Mum wasn't too good at the counting).
Sam Vimes in the Movies
There is a well known or not so well know Australian actor, goes by name of Marton Csokas, watched him in a film a few weeks ago - Ultraviolet? I think he would be just perfect to play Sam Vimes. Rugged, not so clean cut looking - my perfect image of Sam Vimes!
Casting the Discworld
Oooh alright if you insist here - IMO only - are who should be who in the Discworld. If you don't know any of these here actors have a look on The Internet Movie Database (IMDb), tis a brilliant film website! Anyway here we go:
Sam Vimes - Marton Csokas
Nobby Nobbs - Steve Buscemi
Vetinari - Alan Rickman
Nanny Ogg - Miriam Margoyles
Granny Weatherwax - Dame Maggie Smith
Carcer - Rhys Ifans - he can be nasty enough!
Oh there are just too many to mention, but it's very subjective isn't it? Who I see as playing Sam Vimes or Nobby, might be awful to someone else. But as I said all IMO!!:wink:
i agree, steve buscemi would be very good
You know, having just looked him up... I think you could be right!
This picture is what convinced me.
hmm, yes, I guess so. Strange that someone who has played in so many big films is still as anonymous... I wouldn't have had the faintest idea who he was, even looking at that photo !
Telltale sign of a good actor!
Marton Csokas looks very like Vimes from Where's My Cow?. I'd watch him gladly.
I take that back, I want Clive Owen to play Vimes, I really really want that.
what actor would make a good sam vimes
I'd widdle myself watching "Celeborn" rolling around in the gutter
who should play vimes
Okay I like Bob Hoskins for Vimes or even for Sgt. Colon....or a Hoskins-esque physique with maybe a younger guy for Vimes.
As for Carrot maybe Ioan Gruffud?
Nobby would have to be Linda Hunt..she does asexual very well.
MartinCsokas is okay, but isn't Vimes 40ish?
Steve Buscemi would be a great Igor.
Miriam Margoyles as Nanny Ogg - now there's a good idea!
"Pratchett says in the companion work, The Art of Discworld, that he has always imagined Vimes as British actor Pete Postlethwaite."
Samuel Vimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I agree totally 100%
Much as I hate to think about American actors taking what i really see as british Roles, Clint eastwood would be perfect, or Pete Postelthwaite.... Needs to be someone a bit haggard really, Hugh Laurie is a bit too posh...
I take it you haven't seen Hugh Laurie in House then.
I have seen Hugh laurie in 'House' and he is brilliant (in everything he's in) , just not right for my own personal mental image of Vimes! Perhaps I am too biased following his Blackadder days... I still think Clint or Pete have 'the look' - older, gnarlier and crotchety!
definatly Hugh Laurie. with the scruffy House look
ah well, each to their own eh?
I think he definitely developed away from Vimes, if he ever looked the part. Too tall and thin.
what about the woman who played Nursey in Blackadder the Second to play Nanny Ogg??:wink:
I can only imagine Hugh Laurie in the role...
check Silvermoths picky of hugh laurie.... hes a dead ringer 4 vimes :surprised:
I love Hugh Laurie, but somehow he doesn't look haggard enough. Vimes has such a dark side and so much anger under the surface, I think Laurie's big blue eyes don't convey that. I've always pictured someone like Ed Harris. . .
Photos of Ed Harris
He looks a bit old (I havn't seen him in anything but from those pictures)
Now, I`m not being picky or anything, but shouldnt the actor playing Twoflower be in the least bit oriental?? or have I totally got the wrong end of the barking dog :lol:
What about Philip Glenister (DCI Hunt in ashes to Ashes n Life on Mars) to play Vimes? he looks haggered yet deterined enough (no offence mr Glenister sir if ya reading this :lol
Y'know, I have been thinking so hard on who should play Carrot and suddenly it just came to me.
What do you guys think about Charlie Hunnam playing Carrot?
Yes! I do still like the idea of Hugh Laurie, but could definitely see this. For those not familiar with Life on Mars, IMDB isn't really blessed with photos of Mr G, so here's a link to one:
whenever i read the watch books i see vimes as Pete Postlethwaite check out this link Pete Postlethwaite
he is the one who should play vimes in any watch movies
hugh laurie looks too well brought up for vimes who to be honest had a hard upbringing but pete looks just the part
And for nanny ogg it should be the actress who plays lisa dingle in emmerdale (cant think of her name) but she would be perfect after all she can control the dingle clan the ogg clan shouldnt be much trouble after that
you must be either mad or american. Buzz lightyear as vimes not a chance
I could see him in a nobby nobbs role though
Haven't been here in a while.
This is a topic that has exercised my mind on occasion and I believe Carrot should look like this.
Paul O'Connell Munster and Ireland second row.
'Tis a real pity he's a rugby player though and has a strong Limerick accent
I think the guy who played the lead detective on Midsomer murders would be the best. I even believe his character on that program had the same personality. Unfortunately I have a feeling that he passed away. He was certainly a lot more closer than Morse or Hugh Laurie.
I think you mean John Nettles... and he is still very much alive.
An interesting choice and I agree he would be worth considering.
I do believe you are right.
Midsomer Murders - Cast Details
I can picture him as Vimes. At least thats the kind of person I always imagined when I read the books.
while I sort of agree, I think that the john thaw (godresthissoul) would be to old, I see Vimes as a middle aged man who has aged simply because of his duty. I dont know who would be a good actor and at the risk of being unpopular I'd stab Clooney in the dark. He seems like a man who has aged grecefully and as such, with good make up, could look like a younger man aged by drink and hard work.
Poselthwaite was a good one (however his name is spelled.. ask his mother).
The best depction in my opinion wast the scarred and eyepatched version on the cover of Night Watch.
Which book are we talking about though? Vimes ages a lot througout the books.
P.S Please forgive my spelling, punctuation and grammer. I am on holiday and as such am trying to learn a new language so I am taking a liberal view to my mothertoungue (did I spell that right????)
Come back Buzzfloyd, we need you!
Too smooth in my view. My vote would be Ray Winstone - he definitely has the toughness (like John Thaw's Jack Regan) and the sentimentality when necessary. Robert Glenister is also a good choice (thanks kasxy).
If RG gets Vimes then RW would also make a brilliant Detritus.
For me Ben Kingsley would be the perfect Vimes, right age and stature; and if anyone saw Sexy Beast will know he can do mean.
I agree, Ben Kingsley looks the part to me. Sexy Beast is a good film too.
Sam - Craig Charles
Carrot - Steven Merchant
Colon - Ricky Tomlinson
Nobby - Lee Evans
Angua - I think they have her nailed on from the Skt TV shows.
Sybil Ramkin - Beverley Callard
Nobby - Tony Robinson (nobby is similar in style to baldrick anyway)
Colon - Jim Broadbent (though maybe a bit too tall)
Angua - Michelle Ryan
Sybill - Pam Ferris
Carrot - Ross Kemp? (not sure about this one) :question:
I personally have to thrown the name of one Steve Coogan into the hat to play Sam Vimes. Having seen him in several different roles, I think he may just have what it takes.
who would play who in the movies
Hmmm. well thats a tough one. But i think the question really should be 'who would play the character the best?'. Having seen Going Postal and Hogwatch i have to say that some of the choices made for such well established and well known characters were difficult to fathom. David Jason as Rincewind was a poor choice, especially as he has also played the assistant to Death. David Tennant may have been physically better but I am not sure who i would have play him otherwise. In Going Postal Angua was played very poorly by a Danish actress called Ingrid Bolsø Berdal. She played Angua badly but not because she acted poorly. Its rather that Angua does not, at the drop of a hat or the apprehension of Moist, just change into a werewolf. Its well established in the books that she is very resistant to being seen in the transitional form by anyone including Carrot. She certainly wouldnt just 'pop into werewolf mode' because she sees Moist. And neither would she ask someone if they would be lunch. Picky, I know, but i hope you get my point. We know who she is and how she would act. Pardoxically, the actor choice of Lord Vetinarii was brilliant. Charles Dance nailed it to the wall, skinned it and wore it perfectly.
So who would play Vimes. Well i have to admit that Ray winstone does make a good starting place. But not Pete Postlethwaite. Too boney, not hard enough, not enough prescence. Remember, Vimes is a leader. The actor has to get that right. Vimes is a man who leads and commands. Sean Bean perhaps. I know i would love to see Sean play Doctor Who. I cant stand Doctor Who (and i love scifi) but i would watch Sean Bean as Doctor Who. I think someone mentioned Ben Kingsley as Vimes. No. Definetly not. He is a fine actor. But he cant play Vimes. As seen on Wikipedia ' Paul Kidby, who has collaborated with Pratchett on several works, portrays him as resembling Clint Eastwood' but i never get a sense of that when reading the books. If he was to be played by a character who looked like clint then we would be expecting him to sound like clint and not vimes. I dont have an answer as to who would be best to play Vimes. But i think it would have to be someone we dont know. And who would play Carrot. Now that is a toughie. It would have to be done well. this one would be way to easy to screw up. You can just hear a producer saying 'just get some football player'. Any thoughts on who would play carrot WELL.
Good arguments. However, the total geek inside me simply has to point out there is no such character as Doctor Who. The TV show is called 'Doctor Who', the leading role is called 'the Doctor'. The running theme is we never get to know any other names besides 'the Doctor', hence the title of the series is Doctor Who. However, Doctor Who is often erroneously used as if it were an eponymous title in popular culture. Sorry. :redface:
I think Rob Brydon would also make a fine Vimes. I definitely want to see a UK actor in the job. Americans would just ruin all that is good about it.
Hi Londo. You must be a Babylon 5 fan! Thanks for picking up my suggestion of Ray Winston. Returning to this thread after a few years. My new thought for playing Vimes would be Jason Statham. He has a strong suggestion of suppressed violence that would spice up the role.
That might work. I already have an unhealthy collection of Jason Statham films. I keep seeing them in the shops when I go looking for a film, thinking 'meh, he's not so bad I may as well watch that' when I can't decide what to get.. and now, a few years down the line, I seem to have about twenty films with him in it.
Sean Bean as Sam Vimes
Found this msg board after searching för "Sean Bean as Sam Vimes". In my opinion Sean is the only possible choice. Sean is a fantastic actor and that mix of toughness and tenderness is unforgettably portrayed by Sean in e g "Sharpe". The question is: will they ever make a movie of the Watch books?
It would be nice. Hopefully they will get around to doing the Watch books eventually. I think the next one is meant to be Sorcery. I agree about Sean Bean. I saw a clip of something with Robert Carlyle in the other day and think he might fit also now he's getting a bit older.:
If he were an actor, Prince Harry looks like what I picture Carrot and his lineage is almost as good.
If you could turn back time...
Every time I read the books, I can't help visualising Tommy Lee Jones as he was in 'The Fugitive' and 'US Marshals'. Whenever I see re-runs of those two movies it's almost as if Sam Vimes had been transplanted to contemporary USA. The attitude, approach and most of all the LOOK seem spot on. He'd be too old now, of course...
Kevin Whately might just be able to carry it off. He's matured well in 'Lewis'
I never really thought of Kevin Whately like that before. If it was ten or twenty years ago I would have thought you were mad, but I can see what you mean now he's more mature.
The Whately idea, continued...
Thanks, Maljonic! Have to say that I was somewhat eccentric 20 years ago and haven't changed, so your initial judgement is probably right...(!)
The advantage to Whately would you could have a bit of fun with a cameo role - Laurence Fox (Hathaway) in a walk-on as Visit-the-Infidel-with-Explanatory-Pamphlets perhaps?
Mind you, thinking about it, Fox would make an excellent William de Worde.
I'd never heard of Laurence Fox, had to look him up... which also means I discovered I haven't watched Lewis. I've only seen Kevin Whately as Lewis on Morse and probably also seen him in TV promos for Lewis. Before Morse I'd only seen him on Auf Wiedersehen, Pet in the 1980s.
Morse and Lewis
'Lewis' as a separate series (following on chronologically from Morse) is well worth a look. Sergeant Lewis is now the Chief Inspector, following in his old boss's footsteps and Laurence Fox plays Sgt Hathaway (he's the son of Edward Fox, the Jackal in the original 'Day of the Jackal' movie). If you enjoyed Morse, you'll find all the elements that made it so good are still there. Of course, without the great John Thaw (and what a Vimes HE'D have made) it can never be quite as superb. There are some wonderfully touching references to the late Morse dotted throughout the episodes.
Check it out if you get the chance!
No , perhaps not,may I suggest Anthony Head,even the americans Know him from Buffy,and of course Chris Hemsworth as Carrot.Andy Serkis as Nobby,and Robbie Coltrane as Sgt.Colon.Miranda Hobbs as Lady Sybil Ramkin,easy aint it,any gainsayers I would value any input,(Oh and Rowan Atkinson as Lupine Wonse,any questions??
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