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Question Reflected-sounds-of-underground-spirits - 12-06-2007, 18:41

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I am Czech, therefore I read Pratchett´s books in Czech. Now I read The Colour of Magic in English. I do not understand one thing. Please, help! Twoflower tries to explain Rincewind his job. He talks about inn-sewer-ants polly-sea. That is clear - insurance policy. But later on he talks about "reflected-sounds-of-underground-spirits". I guess, this should work the same way as inn-sewer-ants - just words replaced with another ones, that sound almost the same. But I can neither figure out what those original words should be, nor I can find an explanation on the Internet. Does anybody of you know?
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Default 12-06-2007, 19:00

Hello Tronmkiheda.

It is supposed to be echo-gnomics (economics).
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- [p. 44/39] "'Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?'"

Surprising as it may seem (or at least as it was to me), there are quite a few people who do not understand this cryptification of 'economics', even though it is explicitly explained by Terry a bit later, on p. 71/63: 'echo-gnomics'. Some of the confusion perhaps arises from the fact that we don't usually associate gnomes with spirits, as in: ghosts. But I think Terry here simply means spirits (as in: souls) living underground, with the emphasis on the word 'underground'.
You can find plenty of information about the books and all the puns and cultural references here : The Annotated Pratchett File v9.0 - Index


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Default 12-06-2007, 19:09

oh my... thanks for the explanation (and the Annotated Pratchett link, to be filed away for later time-wasting) ! Yeah, I would have also never associated "gnomes" with "spirits" - last I heard, gnomes were perfectly corporeal creatures, same as the dwarves!


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Default 12-06-2007, 19:20

Yep, same here, but the Pterry writes in mysterious ways...


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Default Many thanks! - 12-06-2007, 22:02

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Hello Tronmkiheda.

It is supposed to be echo-gnomics (economics).


You can find plenty of information about the books and all the puns and cultural references here : The Annotated Pratchett File v9.0 - Index
Many thanks for your quick answer. It is all clear now. I was confused by inn-sewer-ants. I believed that I had to search just words with similar sound. I did not look for hidden meanings.
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Default 12-07-2007, 17:20

They're underground spirits because in classical mythology there were different spirits for each of the elements (eg air - sylphs), and the earth spirits were gnomes.


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Default 12-07-2007, 19:47

Yeah, I know, immature much, but your original spelling of "spirits" made me snort outloud in the middle of workplace, Buzzfloyd!


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