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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 14:34

Okay, here's a brief summation of the situation. It's not intended to be the final word, but I do think it will be accurate if not exact.

Jaunty claims to have posted under an older account which he couldn't remember the password for. That account belonged to a fairly annoying poster.

Jaunty, older and self-proclaimed wiser, reintroduced himself with a "joke" thread that was quite hostile and offensive to most people on the boards. He consistently failed to offer a real apology, persistently denied that he had done nothing wrong, blamed everyone possible for his shortcomings, and has demonstrated a casual unthinkingness time and time again when he clearly understands that we wanted him to think about his actions and posts before comitting to them.

There is still some doubt as to whether or not Jaunty shared his login info with known trolls.

Jaunty belongs to the stamps forum, and joined that forum before rejoining our community. He claims to be accepted on a number of other sites as well.

When sufficient people had reached the end of their patients or tollerance of his behavior, a Coventry petition was started that received no objections from regular members (i think) and received a majority of support from the currently active posters.

He was blacklisted on the old site, yet still chose to follow us to the current site and make use of an avatar that he already knew was annoying to us. After being banned here, he created a new identity to continue to demand our attention.

I am well aware that known trolls attempted to make Jaunty look bad, but the sad truth is that Jaunty does a good enough job of that on his own. His unceasing inconsiderate and belligerant attitude is only broken up by efforts at emotional blackmail.

I am, in sort, sick of him.

I suggest that we addopt two policies:

1) Ban any account he posts under instantly
2) Moderators are free to delete on sight any posts by an account known to belong to Jaunty if the administrator is unavailable at the time.

I'm going to do a three day poll for the first suggestion now, as I know this to have the support of the community. If there is a second to the other suggestion, and no objections, I'll make a poll for that in a day or two.


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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 14:35

I don't feel this needs to be compulsory, but for the record: I have voted on this issue.


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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 14:38

Three things, the third being most important.

Number one, I do think JA should be banned, for all the reasons given above.

Number two, those inclined to deel sympathetic towards him must recognise that he is emotionally blackmailing you. This is a bad thing, and you can add it to the list of things he's done wrong. He is manipulating you to try and make you feel sorry for him. Don't fall for it.

Number three, I am strongly against deletion of Jaunty's posts. Aside from anything else, he continues to prove why he should be banned. More importantly, I believe that the only posts that should be deleted are junk posts, such as spam or accidental double posts. The written record of what has gone on here should not be tampered with in anyway.


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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 14:39

His current ip has been banned by the way, posted too late on the other thread. Doesn't mean he definately wont be able to come back though, so the above is still relevant. I'm not sure what you can and cannot see after your ip is banned, it's different to been made inactive on the boards I guess but I can't test this on myself because I might not be able to log in again for all I know.

Does anyone want to volunteer for a ten minute banning to see what happens?
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 14:48

You can ban me for a while if you want.

I agree with one. JA has already been banned on the HC board (coventry=baning) and has proved that he doesn't fit in here.


Number two: I need to think about. I think it's only deteling posts until he gets banned, then they become visiable agian? I don't like the idea of baning posts permently, i'm open to the idea of deteleling post until the banned person can be re-banned, if only to act as stop gap. But i'm happy enough to just wait around. I am completely agianst the idea of permanly banning any posts.

Maybe more clearification on what it?
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 14:50

Ok, 5 people have voted but only 4 have posted. While I don't think you should say how you've posted, I think it might be worth while making a post to say that you have voted, just so we know trolls are tampering with the poll.
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:04

Once a post is deleted it is gone forever. Banned people can be unbanned just as easily.

I'll try banning Rincewind from 3:15 to 3:30, if that's all right with you Rinso?
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:08

Ok. Then I'm definatly agianst deteling any non-spam posts.

Mal, Thats a cool ban time.

But once I'm gone I what you all to cry.

Real tears.

Tears of saddness, not joy!
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:11

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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:16

Rincewind was banned because he smells of Poo!
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:17

Not yet! and you're not crying! :(
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:18

oh, I've misunderstood something then. I thought from what you'd said before, Mal, that if a post was deleted it would remain in the database and could be recovered from there?

if deleting is permanant, then I retract my suggestion. there's a very finite limit to what damage could be done by a poster in the wee hours when he might go unnoticed or the admin account would be unavailable. (Jaunty certainly seemed quite curious that we couldn't ban him when he first showed up...)

thus, we can easily wait it out until a ban can be activated on anyone who deserves it, and not have to delete anything at all.


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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:18

this board is too fast. crossposting happens. rinso smells so strongly that being around him makes me cry.


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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:20

Pfft! I luagh in the face of Mals banning attemps!

You cannot ban me!

I HAVE A THOUSAND YEARS OF POWER!
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Default Jaunty Angles - what to do about him... - 08-20-2005, 15:23

Pah, can you still post now?
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