[quote:07d6412473="Pixel"]
First of all, "let" people post over there is not an issue - no-one as far as I am aware has suggested that Mal should check the HC board and blacklist anyone found posting there.[/quote:07d6412473]

Indeed. I think that's the gist of what I reapetedly said on this thread, that noone ever suggested chasting anyone. I'm not quite certain what you're saying here.

Just asking out of interest: If we agree that posting over there should have no actual consequences in terms of board policy measurements for the person in question over here, what exactly do you suggest if you are -if I got your previous posts right- validly against it?

[quote:07d6412473="Pixel"][snip] These people were then allowed by the moderator who suddenly turned up after we had moved to continue on the board - I suppose you could call it spoils of war - I feel that going back and posting on HC could risk them deciding to invade us - and this is in addition to the implied agreement when we moved - the HC site is no longer somewhere that we want anything to do with![snip][/quote:07d6412473]

That "[i:07d6412473]we[/i:07d6412473]" does not seem to include all of us anymore.
[i:07d6412473]I[/i:07d6412473] personally don't want to go back there.
[i:07d6412473]You[/i:07d6412473] don't want to go back there.
The Jackal in this case, whom I would regard as also a member of this community obviously is playing with the thought of posting there. That's why this thread exists. And as much as I do [i:07d6412473]not [/i:07d6412473]want to go there and post, I wouldn't want to see anyone leaving from here because of the entire business.

[quote:031b41e6d4="Hsing"]So, if it was a real world place, would you be wearing a trenchcoat, a wig and dark glasses? [size=9:031b41e6d4]"Hey... You... Shhhhhhhhhh! ...Yes, you! "[/size:031b41e6d4][/quote:031b41e6d4]

Yes thats me... incognito.

I'm a bit worried about the opinion floating about that anyone who posts again on the old board will be thought less of here in the future.

Not anyone, just the core members who moved here with a clear purpose and reason. People can't help how they feel.

Posted on Garners behalf:

[b:25f0512372]Garner:[/b:25f0512372]
[quote:25f0512372]"We moved here to get away from people who're still on the old boards, or at least their spiritual compatriots since we lack the burden of proof. If you joined this site before the official date of the move, it was understood that you were fully aware of why we had made a new site, enough of the history to understand it, and agreed with the reasoning and the need. Furthermore, it was made clear that such an understanding was expected of you.

Times haven't changed all that much, at least not enough to remove all our reservations. There are people on that old site that still actively despise us and, as best they can, campaign against us. Anyone who joined this site to escape that kind of persecution who would now go back when it's still going on would be thought less of, just as you would surely think less of a friend who decided to go play with the neighborhood bullies that take your milk money.

People who joined after that official move date aren't expected to share the community stance on the old site or the old antagonists. It's hoped that they would be of like minds with us on at least general issues if they wanted to stick around and be a part of this site, but nothign more than that. They've got no reason to take sides in old fights that never involved them.

They're not so much 'neutral' as just 'not involved' at all. Now, for someone who was 'neutral' during those old fights, you can't expect to stay 'neutral' if you came here under that understanding and knowing why we left. You made a choice. Now, no one ever asked you to sign a contract about how you'd behave once you got here, but most of us shared that understanding that makes up our social contract about the old boards. Just like the old coventry petitions - if you didn't sign it and everyone else did, you'd still be an outsider if you maintained good relations with the trolls we shunned. Staying 'neutral' as a matter of policy doesn't mean you can stay friends with every side in a polar issue."[/quote:25f0512372]

What date exactly was the offical move date?

I typed it into search & got 176 entries. Looked at results from around july & august 2005 but didn't spot it!

August 18th. It was Kenso/Rinky's birthday that day, so I double-checked on the calendar.

the date you registered, coincidentally enough.

I say no. Nonononononononononono! We are talking about life forms that even spammed Tempus Fugitive's threads. Do you really want to have anything to do with them?

I had been on that board from 2002 to 2005. I may not had been constantly active, but I knew of the going-ons. I was never a target personally but that doesn't men I was not offended as a community member.

The last time I went there was to take something from the archives and that was months ago. The archives are jambled beyond recognition and after we left, the troublemakers disappeared into thin air and a deranged old member popped up. As the koan goes, I am not as green as I am cabbage looking.

Jackal, I cannot dictate what you do or what you don't do. I most certainly won't be patroling the old boards to see who is posting. But if you do start posting there again, especially since you *were* there in the end, when every single thread was bumped and spammed beyond recognition, I most certainly re-evaluate my opinion of you and write you down as hopelessly naive and painfully immature.

To the new members. You were not part of that beef. We don't want you to be part of that beef. Start posting there if you like, but don't be surprised if the snakes we had in our bosom won't start pushing you to take sides.

Edit: Clarified a sentence

Well, basically, it looks like any of the exodus gang that then go back and post on the old board are giving credence to the people that drove us away.

To go back and mingle with people like that?

Well, I think that would speak for itself.

[quote:29c62be5f4="Garner"]the date you registered, coincidentally enough.[/quote:29c62be5f4]

Jaysus, seems like I'm always on the fence doesn't it.

There are some things on the old board which I want to do, such as adding the last 2 parts of my novel (only 33 of the 35 parts were put up & what's the point of that?!).

After that, I think I'll leave their board alone. Can't say if I'll stop forever, but we'll see how things go I suppose.

Not that it matter too much, but I don't understand why you want to put your whole story up there if not to get some response from the people on that board?

Posting on behalf of Garner

[quote:8b9f63ec9a="Garner"]We've discussed the posting of your novel on the old boards before, Jackal. You'd said you weren't going to keep posting it over there. Going back on your word isn't 'starting an interesting discussion' on other message boards. It is just self-publishing. If you're concerned that you aren't getting a wide enough audience here, I've been told that Wikipedia is a popular website. Maybe you could post things there? I'm sure they could use an ultimate guide to Terry Pratchett, for example. Or maybe the general internet would be interested in your stomach muscles?[/quote:8b9f63ec9a]

Honestly guys, this thread scares me.

In what way, KK?