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Default Old users? - 02-16-2007, 12:32

I was looking at Sweeper Voting for something to do (nobody else was on) and Garner was quoted about the users from the old board not having a "clean slate" if they join. Have any of them joined? (I mean the ones mentioned in that post as being annoying)


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Default Old users? - 02-16-2007, 13:57

On behalf of Garner:

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Some of them have joined, and persisted in offending or violating community standards. As we now have the means to enforce banning posters, they have been banned. There is a limit to how many 'one last chances' that people get in life.

Some of those same 'problem posters' have joined under new names and, at least for a time, participated in the community without causing complaint or offense. I believe that these people grew bored with trying to prove they could 'trick' us and eventually stopped posting under any name.

It is worth pointing out that many of these people had, in the past, insisted they had no reason to try to fit in with our community or that it was unreasonable of us to ask them to. By trying to infiltrate our community and pose as a decent person who could get along with us, all they would have proved was that they could have gotten along with us all the time and that the true fault is, and always was, with them.

It is a sad fact of life that people sometimes cannot get along with each other. In the history of this community, we have had a woefully large number of encounters with persons who, rather than accepting this fact and moving on with life, have chosen to try and destroy our community. The internet's a big enough place. We moved here. If they want to follow, they have to abide by our rules. If they don't want to abide by our rules, but insist on coming here any way, we ban them.

Nice, simple, easy


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Default Old users? - 02-16-2007, 14:00

I'm new-ish, but I try to be as annoying as possible so Garner has someone to moan at


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Default Old users? - 02-16-2007, 14:45

Not just Garner, Katcal, not just Garner. ;-)


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Default 04-16-2007, 02:30

I think this referred to me in part actually. Haven't been here in a long, long time. Anyone willing to start a clean slate? I've never felt comfortable with how this ended. I remember talking to Garner on Aim about a year after it happened, he still wasn't happy then.
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Default 04-18-2007, 16:53

Mal, can we terminate his account?
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Default 04-18-2007, 17:00

Actually, hell... it's been a while, so maybe there should be a discussion on this.

I'm not remotely inclined to present an unbiased side, however, so here's the question:

Should we give someone another chance after they repeatedly, and i mean REPEATEDLY burned through 'one last chance', take part in friendly discussions with our (forgive the melodrama) sworn enemies, and try to squeeze back into a community they've repeatedly offended without actually apologizing for said offenses or seeming to have changed in the least?

I'm pretty much inclined to say no, but... well, I don't run the show around here.
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Default 04-18-2007, 17:21

I was kinda thinking the collective silence on the matter had been just as damning. Some people need to learn that life isn't an etch-a-sketch that can be wiped clean with a little shake.


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Default 04-18-2007, 17:23

Well excuse the hell outta me. I didn't notice this thread until this evening. I don't actually care enough to check back all that often, see....
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Default 04-18-2007, 17:35

Well the only reason he's not still banned is because the migration didn't copy the list of who's banned and I just kind of forgot about it. I think there was only like two people on it anyway.

So should we ban him or what?
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Guys I don't want to come back, I doubt I could truly befriend any of you now. I'm just not comfortable with all you people hating me.


Edit: And to address Garner's point in part. Yes I talked to those people that were wrecking the board when I first joined. What I said and did to them made to no difference to what they did, you could argue I was encouraging them, but their grievences with you were far bigger than the few words I had with them. And how long has passed? I'm sure none of you are the same people you were.

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Default 04-18-2007, 18:54

well, I'd like to believe he's grown up a bit, but if he doesn't want to try and join the community then let's help him out with that and block the account.

And Jaunty? Personally, I don't hate you. I don't think any of us 'hate' you. We didn't like your behavior, and you never once tried to rectify it in any meaningful way.

You sound a lot more grown up now, but, hell, you can't have matured that much or you'd have stayed away. (must have been that email that went out after Mal upgraded the boards, I guess)

Anyway, if there's no objections, and based on his last post I don't think Jaunty objects, let's just get the ban back in place and be done with it. shalom, auf wiedersehen, bye bye baby.
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Default 04-18-2007, 20:06

We could have been friends once, you and I.
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Default 04-19-2007, 07:38

Yes, and the US could have been named New Switzerland. What's that to do with the price of beans?
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Default 04-19-2007, 17:49

Yeah, it's not big deal. Things could of worked out, but they didn't. It's not worth the effort on anyones part to *try* and make things work. We don't hate you, you don't hate us. We just don't gel, or something.

We should Ban the account for form's sake. He banned Jaunty on the old board, which was the old community, which is *this* community, so the ban should still stick.
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