She wouldn't have to call herself Susan Ogg.

Well, its either Susan Ogg or Shawn Death.
Both dont sound right, lol.

Well no, tha wife can technically keep her maiden name, especially if it has become publicly recognized as part of her work... But seriously ? Susan and an Ogg ? Even if it was plausible, a Nanny-Susan relationship would not produce fireworks... there would be many casual teas... :cooler:

Back to the susan + lobsang subject.
Anyone know his surname? Time?

Susan Time... That works.

[quote:e5fa2cb4d4="Katcal"]Well no, tha wife can technically keep her maiden name, especially if it has become publicly recognized as part of her work... But seriously ? Susan and an Ogg ? Even if it was plausible, a Nanny-Susan relationship would not produce fireworks... there would be many casual teas... :cooler:[/quote:e5fa2cb4d4]I don't think technicality comes into married names anymore, not in the UK anyway. Lots of people keep their own names, use one or the other, make something up combining the two or even make something up completely new. Terry Pratchett often uses modern concepts in his novels so that, even if the Discworld seems somewhat medieval, they sort of keep up with modern ideas in this world.

I don't think people's family names should be a consideration when deciding if they should marry or not, unless they are like totally shallow dude, and wouldn't be surprised if Terry used it to make a joke anyway.

In Belgium, the rules come as a regular surprise to a lot of married Englishwomen coming over here and settling for long enough to register with the authorities - having become used to using their husband's family name (I don't say "surname" since we are talking about Belgium - in French, "surname" ("surnom") means "nickname") they find that this doesn't work here - all official documentaion, signatures, etc for a married woman must use her maiden name!

Edited for spelling.

What I meant, Mal, was that there was technically no boundary to keeping her maiden name, and that it is particularly popular with women who have becom well known by that name...

In France they're still dawning to the whole question of women keeping their maiden name, husbands aren't allowed to take on their wives name unless they have serious reason to (such as having an embarassing-sounding name themselves and wanting to get rid of it. However, being the son of a famous murderer or something nasty is not considered a serious reason... Duh !)

That's all right, I just mean that it would be pretty stupid to not marry two characters becauase their names don't sound good together. Perhaps it might happen in a cheap soap opera, but I doubt Terry would consider their names when deciding who should be married or, if he did, he would make it part of the story.

The custom of changing one's name to one's husband seems to only exist in those countries whose legal systems developed from English Common Law: the UK, the US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc. Italian and Latin American women, for example, don't change their names.

It comes from the old idea that, in English Common Law, when a woman got married, she ceased to exist legally as a separate person and became the same person as her husband, legally. Which is why a woman used to not be able to testify against her husband in court, because legally, she was testifying against herself (since she is her husband), and you can't be made to testify against yourself in court.

[quote:949d67b82d="Mikor"]Well, its either Susan Ogg or Shawn Death.
Both dont sound right, lol.[/quote:949d67b82d]


**spoiler**


I thought she was called Sto Helite ([strike]Possible[/strike] probably spelling mistake).

Havn't Nanny and Susan allready met? in Theif of time If i recall. Nanny deliverd Time's son and Susan was asking her about it. Although I may be wrong, it's been a wile since I've read TOT. If i remember rightly they had a cup of tea quite calmly wile talking about the delivery. I'll have to check up on it when i get to my dads.

Yes, it's Susan Sto Helit, but Nobby does refer to her as Susan Death, and has quite a debate on the Death family name with Colon in Soul Music, wondering what Death's first name is... Keith was his favourite, as I remember.

Nanny and Susan have met, as you recalled, it was the possible moter-in-law/daughter-in-law relationship that was potentially spark-provoking, seeing how Nanny treats her other daughters-in-law.

Marcia> And then they wonder why women are mildly insane... whole lives of talking to yourself, let alone the idea of having children with yourself, enough to make anyone barmy !

[quote:ea5f784f6d="Marcia"].. .you can't be made to testify against yourself in court.[/quote:ea5f784f6d]I object!

[quote:fd3b8a7fec="Mikor"]Back to the susan + lobsang subject.
Anyone know his surname? Time?

Susan Time... That works.[/quote:fd3b8a7fec]

Ludd. He's Lobsang Ludd. It's a reference to, "You are Lobby Ludd and I claim my £5."

Also, I thought it was pretty clear at the end of ToT that Susan and Lobsang [i:fd3b8a7fec]did[/i:fd3b8a7fec] get it on together.

I enjoyed the maths jokes on the previous page, especially since it took me a while to work out the meaning of the thread title. Emoticons are generally fine on this board, but they are usually only used as accents; if you are relying on an emoticon to convey meaning, as in the title of this thread, I would suggest changing it to actual words. It doesn't fall into the category of chatspeak, which we ask people to avoid, but I think it does start to obscure meaning.

i think they will get marred but we will have to see after the new book Making Money. but it looks like Susan may have found her true love and she will not age like Lobsangs dad (Wen) did not age with the help of Time.