We've had it for a week, but haven't had a chance to read it yet. That's because we intend to read it together.

Mrs G
The Garner who cares.

I bought the book last week, in hardcover, for 160NIS (that's about 20£ or 40$). Finished reading it by Saturday, and enjoyed it immensely. This is very much a return to form for Pratchett, and Moist von Lipwig is a character that is great to meet again, with a smile, a glint in the eye, and a... "Trust me." ;-)

I think we'll be meeting Moist again soon, if the end is any indication.

Anticipate charity by preventing poverty. - Rabbi Moshe ben-Maimon

Well, i was dissapointed in it. Felt a bit flat, i felt. Didn't really get going.

Far, far from his best work. Since Going Postal was so good, I think it made the failure of this book to hit the mark harder to swallow.

It wasn't a BAD book, it just wasn't anything great. Mediocre. And i've come to expect more from this author.

Following on from the lackluster Thud, i'm vaguely concerned that it might be on a terminal decline now. Or, perhaps, it needs to move away from Ankh for a while. It would be nice to see a character other than Vimes or Vetinari.

The Vimes obsession has been bugging me for a while, even the completely unrelated to ankh book, Monstrous Regiment, had to have him shoehorned into it somewhere.

And, of course, the Igor fetish continues.

I don't know. The mans clearly got an imagination, i just think he doesn't seem to be using it much these days.

Why are pirates called pirates?

I liked the Making Money a lot, although I didn't find it as good as going postal. What I like about Moist is the way that he puts himself into tricky situations by making things up on the spot, yet this is also his method of survival. I also liked the interaction between Moist and Vetinari: it's nice to see someone capable of surprising the patrician.

I agree that Thud! seemed to fall a bit flat though, so I also consider Making Money to be a return to form.

(Hello, I'm Mina by the way )

Hello Mina.

Dragon's Kingdom - Stop typing "alot" when you mean "a lot"! - Disappointed

Hi Mina, welcome!

... ::gulps:: People didn't like "Thud!"? But, but, but... :sputters: It was so---so---RELEVANT!!! I honestly haven't seen a better fun-house reflection of the world affairs - doesn't matter if it's today's, yesterday's, or centuries ago, - yet, unlike "The Monstrous Regiment", which likewise attempted to hold up a mirror to the world (world's wars, specifically), "Thud!" actually offered some hope that people might someday learn to get along after all!*
After reading "Thud", I seriously wished it was a required reading for aspiring world leaders, until it hit me (half a second later), that most world leaders aren't quite the learn-from-their-betters type.

So yeah, "Thud!", don't listen to them, you're one of my most favorite books EVER, and I would'nt trade you for a thousand "Going Postal'"s. (Nothing against "Going Postal", it was a fun read, I just can't remember any of the plot details to save my life )

*Whereas "The Monstrous Regiment" was mostly a misery bath for the soul, and as misanthropic as I've ever seen the Marther get.

Friends don't let friends take up scrapbooking!

Thank-you for the kind welcome.

I don't know what it was about Thud, but I just couldn't get into it as easily. I wouldn't say I didn't like it, it is Terry Pratchett after all, but I didn't like it as much. Maybe it was something to do with the way that Vimes has changed, I liked his ...um, well Vime-ishness I suppose, but his diplomatic position seems to supress this. In Thud! he just seemed angry to me... (although I do recognise that this was part of the plot)
It was relevant, it just seemed a little 2-dimensional to me.

But I loved Monsterous Regiment! I thought it was really well done as a critique of feminism as well as of war in general. (Each woman is isolated and unaware of the others, when they could be working together to be there in their own right) I liked the freshness of the new characters as well.
*strokes cover of "Monsterous Regiment" protectively*

I think MR is one of those love it or hate it books, it happens...

Mina, why don't you go and introduce yourself in the Introductions Thread so we get to know a bit more about you there are some ritual questions in there that should help... And you can find out more about us if you're prepared to read the 500 pages of stuff

Damn Spider pig

Merely 500? ;-)

Anticipate charity by preventing poverty. - Rabbi Moshe ben-Maimon

I wasn't a fan of 'Thud.' I think it's message was rather obvious. "Hey look- different races CAN get on" It was to centered on the 'message' rather than the plot. I didn't feel that Vimes was trying to Solve a Crime (which is what watch books should be all about) and it didn't feel like it had a Villian at all.

I enjoyed making money, but I preferred going postal.

It was nice seeing Slippery Jim de Gri-er, Moist von Lipwig again. The character is a good pastiche/parody of the ol' Rat. It wasn't quite as good as Going Postal, agreed, but it was better than Thud. Hopefully, Raising Taxes will be better.

That's it! What I like about the watch books is Vimes Solving Crimes in his own particularily Vimes-ish way. That explains why I didn't like Thud! so much!
That had been bugging me for ages... Thank-you Rincewind!

I... found... a... MISTAKE!!!! (I feel like Mr.Hammersmith!)


::spoiler alert::


In Making Money, the golems have their own "ancient language". However, back in Feet of Clay, when Vimes discovers a meeting room whose walls are covered in golem writing, the golems apparently "spoke" to each other in understandable Morporkian. (And about something as secret as creating a liberator king, too!)

::waits for someone to attribute it to a seam in the History Monks' patching up of space/time::

Friends don't let friends take up scrapbooking!

If memory serves, it was not a golem lauguage but rather the language of the people who made them. Newer golems, made by other people later on, would have no way of knowing it.

Thus, the golems having a debate in Feet of Clay would be forced to use a common language for their debate - Morporkian.

Anticipate charity by preventing poverty. - Rabbi Moshe ben-Maimon

My favorite thing about Thud is that it continues a question that is asked several times during other watch books, "Who watches the watchman?"